Winter Patriot Community Blog

I cannot understand why you would link to hate-filled sites such as Kenny's Sideshow, Facts Not Fairies, and WRH. Do you actually read them? I don't want to come to your page and see their junk. It's true that Chris Floyd links to you, but at least there's a degree of separation there.

(1) Is "James" "WP"?
(2) What is the significance of blogs "written by Jews" who are "gatekeepers"? Is your point that "Jews" are more likely to be "gatekeepers"? What is your point?
(3) And if you find links on this site "insidious," why would you continue to link to them?
(4) You seem to think I am "making an issue out of it." Yes, I am. Why shouldn't I? Maybe you are missing the point.

Obviously the reason to include links on a blog is to encourage readers to go to sites you feel are sympatico or otherwise have important things to say, else you would just link to random other blogs. You don't link to neo-Nazi blogs or Ku Klux Klan blogs, at least as far as I can tell. So why would you persist in linking to ignorant, anti-Semitic, homophobic blogs -- unless you wanted people to read them?

I think you should take responsibility for who and what you support.

I don't usually read this -- I read the blogspot blog -- so why would I know? Not that it matters much. I chose to post here obviously because I can't post over there.

I suppose my "departure" was a bit of hyperbole. I reckon I harbored a fantasy that you or some other lurker here might actually engage the issue, or -- heaven forbid -- decide the issue in my favor and remove the offensive links. How very naive of me. So now I really will be gone.

It's amusing to me that you "do not take kindly" to being "misled," but leading people to hateful blogs apparently does not ruffle a single feather. And it's ironic that you raise what is essentially an issue of trust. You've hit the nail on the head. I considered you a trustworthy and important voice on a range of political issues. Linking to the blogs I mentioned is a real and continuing violation of that trust.

No need to reply. I won't be lurking here again. Honestly.

but to take that out on Winter and the other folks here is also crude Grimblebee. Despite differences and agreements and disagreements I think we are all on the same side which I view as being anti-criminal in all of its various forms.

FYI, I have gays in my extended family who I care very much much about and consider great friends. It's not an issue except when it moves into a radical agenda. I respect all sincere religious individuals but care little for organized religion as it now exists, Protestant, Jew, Catholic or otherwise.

Winter, hopefully one day you will be able to enter back into the fray. I think you still have a lot to contribute.

One thing I don't understand is the removal of Desert Peace from the roll. Just wondering why?

Is it primarily about the quest for truth?
Is it primarily about not stirring up shit?
Or is it about something else?

I may not agree with Akira's method of expressing himself, but I certainly understand where it comes from.

I may not agree with Akira's contention about "most non-Jews", nor do I see any way in which it can be tested. But I do agree with his sentiment.

I am sick and tired of having to defend against charges of anti-Semitism whenever I tell the truth about Israel.

I am sick and tired of having a president who declared that his first priority is the defense of Israel and a vice-president who declared that in his 36 years in the senate, nobody had been a better friend to Israel than he had. I want a president who thinks the defense of America is more important than the defense of any foreign country, and a vice-president who thinks it's more important to be a friend to America than to anyone else.

I'm sick and tired of the "news" media always painting Arabs and Muslims as sub-human criminals and Israel and the Jews as their innocent victims, whereas in actual fact the opposite is most often the case. I am sick and tired of seeing "Middle East analysts" who praise Israel for its "security policy" while neglecting to mention the inhuman policies of apartheid and genocide that are explicitly endorsed and brutally enfoced by the Israeli government. I am sick and tired of the fact that these brutal policies are carried out with the full support of our own government, including our tax money.

I'm almost sick and tired of the so-called "comedy" we find in so many of "our" sit-coms and movies, where the plot revolves around the inner torments of a screwed-up Jewish boy who feels emasculated by his flaky but domineering Jewish mother. I used to be completely sick of this type of "programming" until I began to entertain the possibility that such attempts at comedy are actually (and perhaps unwittingly) portals through which we non-Jews can begin to understand the monsters who make policy in the US, and in Israel as well.

If I were talking about any other country or any other religion, I wouldn't have to worry about being charged with anti-Semitism, but in this case I do, which is especially ironic since the victims of Israeli policy tend to be Semitic (in the true sense of the word), whereas the perpetrators are mostly not. And I'm sick and tired of that, too.

I am especially sick and tired of Israel identifying itself as "the Jewish state" and enlisting uncritical support from Jews all over the world on the grounds that criticism of Israel could feed dangerous currents of anti-Semitism (so-called). In effect, Israel is using the Jews of the world as a human shield, in order to protect itself from the justifiable backlash its policies would (or might) spawn, if the scale and nature of these policies were widely known. Those Jews who allow themselves to be used in this way are dangerous enemies of the truth, and it really is no wonder that so many of them pose as investigative reporters and/or news analysts. But I am sick and tired of that too.

I could go on and on, elaborating on the points Akira has raised (or hinted at), but I will spare you the further details.

Instead I will try to clarify my previous question:

Is this a site where one may *not* say things such as I have said here (in which case I will happily go elswhere)?

Or is this a site where one may say such things but only in the most diplomatic way imaginable?

Or is this a site where the anger engendered by the things I have mentioned, and other outrageous transgressions against humanity, is understood, even when it expresses itself in such puerile excercises as a bit of name-calling?

For the posters here, much of the 'quest for truth' goes on elsewhere but is exposed here for the purpose of being spread further, imo.
The exposure requires clear and direct language but the 'spread' requires some diplomacy in the form of not using language which is counter productive and easily dismissed; or careless statements that can be used by trolls to create useless arguments

There are any amount of sites on the web that cater for those who simply want to express their anger; and good luck to them. But you had better believe me when I say I have had all the anger I want to take from anyone. At least not the loud indiscriminate 'lets paint the walls with shit' type. Akira, I am singularly unimpressed with boy scouts like you who missed out on potty training. Fucking grow up, mate.

I am intent on being effective in bringing down the massive evil in this world by exposing it to the largest audience in the most effective way. This is not a place of therapy for me in that sense.
Akira posted a very informative list of names. But it would be far more valuable if he had left the introductory diatribe out of it and perhaps gave a reference to validate it. Self indulgent spraying is counter productive to 'spreading the word' and that's what I am interested in; not expressing my own anger simply for my own purposes and at the expense of the message. I have other ways to do that. And I am not interested in the least in reading someone elses angry free association thought processes either. I am not being twee about it. I am being very fucking calculating about it. I want to win this one and I don't like undisciplined loudmouths like Akira fucking it up here, thank you.

If anyone wants to lead anyone anywhere decent, they first have to lead themselves. And to do that they must first control their thoughts and, in turn, their mouths (or pen in this case). It's fundamental, it's basic. If you cannot control yourself, someone else will. And I do know what I am bloody well talking about when it comes to this.

but he said it better than I could have

Kenny runs a fantastic blog. He has an impeccable eye he stays at it every day and he gives out the links to lots of people. Please. The slur on him is absolutely ridiculous.

It seems to me grumblebee lobbed a hand grenade into this community blog on his way out the door.

Think about it.

Well, I read through this and all the comments.

I don't read Kenney's Sideshow, it is just not one I am familiar with.
so I can't comment on what was said there.

I have to say, I find the claim of Riveros blog being anti-semitic a little odd.
But, then I also find 'anti-semetic' an overused and abused slur.
A slur used against someone who dares to criticize Israel, rightly and legitimately.

That said grimblebee made his choice and that's that.

To each their own.