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Israeli TV airs telephone call to father after children killed -English subtitles
I read about this phone call the other day. The voice on the telephone is Dr. Aboul Aish a very popular fixture on Israeli TV. Israeli TV was in the middle of an interview with Tzipi Livni when they interrupted it for this call. His house had been shelled and I believe three of his daughters were killed. The anchors are visibly shaken and I also read somewhere that the Israeli viewers who were watching were extremely upset. I know nothing about Israeli TV but it is amazing they allowed this to air. The true face of war.
A warning, the following is very heart wrenching:
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OT: Missing comments
I am not sure what happened to the comments on Sally's last post. They are still there but not showing up in the sidebar. I don't know if that is because she removed the post or if someone else removed them. I could bring them forward into a comment or another blog post or just leave it the way it is. I thought the conversation was worth having. What does everyone else think?
NJT - if you are out there - do you know what happenned?
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
I'd take it as a "sign" and
I'd take it as a "sign" and leave it as it is!
Just saw this message
hey McJ - Just saw this message - I've been away quite a bit lately but I see you've been blogging hard - great work! I've got some reading to catch up on
I don't know what happened to those comments - I think if someone removes a post, then the related comments become inaccessible, but I'll have to poke around to see if that's actually what happened.
NJT
The comments are still there (click on my comment 'Very enlightening...' on page 2) but I think, as James suggests, it's probably a 'sign' to leave it alone. Some misunderstanding about intents - I believe.
Now get reading....
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
OK
OK - probably the wisest idea.
I liked what you had to say, especially about seeking truth as being a process and I am glad you have decided to return to commenting. I feel the same way about it being a type of therapy to alleviate those feelings of being alone with the knowledge of the evil that surrounds us. Chris Floyd addresses this subject brilliantly in his last post.
Then again, I don't write to sway anybody any more, if I ever did. I write to stay sane, to keep from exploding in rage or going dead with despair, to try to clear a space in the howling madness for myself, and for anyone else who might come this way. I write to bear witness -- mostly to myself, and to what's left of my conscience.
http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1683-the-end-of-hyp...
I appreciate your contributions and I am learning lots. I thank you for that.
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
Israeli TV
Oh, GOD! How can anybody listen to that poor man's anguiah and still believe in justice? What horrors we help inflict on the world! We help and support Israel, nod approvingly as they murder the Palestinians--it's like shooting fish in a barrel. And the children, we're slaughering children!
What possible moral standards do we have left?
Good question
"it's like shooting fish in a barrel"
and that's after the fish have been starved and weakened and sickened so they can't swim as fast.
"What possible moral standards do we have left?"
That's a good question. I don't know the answer but whatever they may be I'm sure we are applying them tribally.
This is a good example of why control of media is so important to the master's of war. What chance do you think that the American or Israeli populations would be supporting this massacre if the real sights and sounds of it were on our TV screens every night instead of sanitized versions we get here in NA. The Arab stations have been showing it non stop and they actually have reporters and camera crews in Gaza.
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
Seems To Me
...that the IDF would consider saying with straight faces that it's the doctors fault for not getting his children out of the way of their shells. Or they might inject that he and his family were militants and that he was supplying medicine to Hamas. Either way, I'm glad that the reporter didn't pull a Faux news on him and cut to commercial or just cut the line and say we have technical difficulties. It would appear that Israhell is running out of friends fast. Red wristband anyone?
launching rockets from their rooftops or the house next door
"that the IDF would consider saying with straight faces..."
or that they were launching rockets from their rooftop or that rockets were coming from the house next door...
Not much has changed - check out this Israeli spokesman's dance after one of Israel's 'mistakes' during war the on Lebannon.
I have noticed they don't seem to be as deeply, deeply sorry about their latest 'mistakes' but as always they are going to have an investigation and the fact that the rockets aren't really doing much harm shouldn't be held against them and war is a terrible thing ya know....
This exchange was good. Note how the Israeli spokesman says that the Palestinians were blowing up buildings on almost every street corner (and even schools) and they were attacking from everywhere, yet they only managed to kill 6 Israeli soldiers in three weeks of non stop fighting-
. Then he says he thinks you have to look at it proportionately 
.
red wristbands? - vive Palestine??
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
...referring to the
...referring to the wristbands seen on Madonna and Mick Jagger and other celebrity social chameleons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_string_(Kabbalah)
right!
I knew that - DUH!
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
Arab Leaders
From Angry Arab News Service
Multiply this by a million at least.
This is just one instance. Multiply this by all the American theaters of war (another one of those sickeningly catchy phrases).
If it were possible, I'd like to see this and every scene like it pumped into every household in every nation who thinks aggressive war is a good idea. Maybe it should have been playing behind the inauguration today on a big screen. Would that bring everybody down? I guess it would. But if America is for real, the video would have given it resolve, which is not the same as being brought down.
Then again, who is the Secretary for War? Why isn't he now called the Secretary for Peace? Why is he allowed anywhere near power? Why isn't he in prison?
Is Obama for real? Certainly not based on available evidence. We shall see.
Then maybe
"Maybe it should have been playing behind the inauguration today on a big screen."
Then maybe we would start to see 'change we can believe in".
I mostly avoided the spectacle of the crowning of the 'Prince of Change" but I did catch a few minutes of CNN coverage tonight. I found out a lot about Michel's outfits for the day, her fashion sense and what the kids were wearing (and about the party they were having) and the 10 balls the couple were attending. And I saw a picture of the letter that Bush left for Obama on his desk in the oval office. ( OT but it got me wondering if it was some kind of sexist slight not to discuss Oba's tux and who made it and how they felt about the new Pres wearing it.)
I also caught a rerun of Obama saying he was going to reach out a hand to those clenched fists around the world and warning them that any who were thinking of slaughtering innocents should not to f*** with the US. I assumed he was only talking about innocent Americans and not the Palestinians in Gaza or other innocents being slaughtered around the world.
Paul Begala commented that he had been overseas and had watched some Al Jazeera TV and that he knew they were a propaganda outfit because they showed pictures of Obama wearing one of those Jewish beanies (can't remember their name - and OT again but what has God got against heads??) which was obviously meant to inflame Arab sentiments. It was one of those 'coffee out the nose' moments considering that he along with about 5 other empty heads had been praising and fawning and genuflecting over Obama the whole time I watched.
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
IDF says shelling Dr's house killing his daughers was reasonable
Israeli army says shelling of house where girls died was 'reasonable'
Rory McCarthy, The Guardian
Feb 5, 2009
Israel's military last night admitted that one of its tanks killed three girls at their home in Gaza during last month's war in a case that shocked the Israeli public, but said the shelling was "reasonable."
The Israeli military said two shells had hit the house of a Palestinian doctor, Izz el-Deen Abu el-Eish [Dr. Abu Aboul Aish], on 16 January, killing his daughters. Moments after their death the Hebrew-speaking gynaecologist was interviewed by mobile phone live on an Israeli television channel, screaming with grief in an extraordinary scene.
For most Israelis it was the first time they had seen such a striking case of civilian deaths in the war, even though hundreds of the 1,300 Palestinian dead were believed to be civilians. The Channel 10 television correspondent who interviewed el-Eish arranged for the military to rush other injured members of the family to hospital in Israel for treatment, where they remain today.
The Israel Defence Force said soldiers from its Golani infantry brigade were under sniper and mortar fire in the area near the man's house in Shujaiya, east of Gaza City. It said soldiers identified "suspicious figures" in the house who they thought were "spotters" for Hamas fighters and opened fire, killing the girls.
"The IDF is saddened by the harm caused to the Abu el-Eish family, but at the same time states that considering the constraints of the battle scene, the amount of threats that endangered the force, and the intensity of fighting in the area, the forces' action and the decision to fire towards the building were reasonable," the military said.
Last night, el-Eish, who was still in hospital in Israel with his surviving relatives, said he was grateful his account of the incident had been recognised. "Thank God the truth has been revealed," he said. "I was always sure that my case was just."
The IDF is only 'saddened' that the Israeli public heard what happened to this family. Note how they rushed his family to an Israeli hospital and also the strange quote by the Dr. at the end of the article.
The Israeli public is in need of a few thousand more shocks like this.
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
Pilger Documentary
I started watching John Pilger's documentart "Palestine is Still the Issue" last night but had to turn it off. I was so angry. I'm sure if I was a Palestinian I would have lost my mind long ago.
A lot of Israelis are going to get an awful shock when they realise just who their God is. I can imagine the despair when they also realise that it should have been obvious all along from their own behaviour. How blindingly stupid can you get?
Same goes for all those Fundo Christians.
Sad IDF tries to make sense of it all.
"The IDF is saddened by the harm caused to the Abu el-Eish family, but at the same time states that considering the constraints of the battle scene, the amount of threats that endangered the force, and the intensity of fighting in the area, the forces' action and the decision to fire towards the building were reasonable," the military said.
- considering the constraints of the battle scene
If they weren't there at all, which they should not have been, there would be no battle scene, never mind "constraints". Great word that, it almost sounds like something clinical or smart somehow.
- the amount of threats that endangered the force
If they weren't there at all there would be no threats that endangered the force. (Save for tripping over a toy rocket.)
- the intensity of fighting in the area
If they weren't there at all there would be no fighting
- the force's action and decision to fire towards the building
What does "towards" mean? Like it's not their fault that the shells actually hit the building? "Yeah sure, we fired toward the building but we didn't know it was going to actually hit the building. We figure there must have been some physics or gravity or something around."
- were reasonable
Reasonable. Like when cattle and pigs get electrocuted in slaughterhouses.
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