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Double Cover: Behind The Mumbai Terror Attacks / [4] Beyond Ridiculous
In reality-based situations (of which this is not one!), the analysis of such a horrible crime would begin with the known facts, and it would proceed in a systematic fashion, from the knowns to the unknowns.
You can read more here, and/or comment below.
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Punk Haired Dudes
And we are all supposed to believe that these guys are Islamic jihadists who are so fanatical about their religion that they are willing to participate in these horrendous suicide missions against us evil (in their eye) infadels. Yet they buy alcohol, drink beer, wear Versace t-shirts, use Blackberries, are foreign looking - some with blond hair or punk hair styles and wear saffron colored wrist bands (a symbol of good luck for Hindus). They really seem like the kind of dudes that would be hanging out with a guy like the late (or not) Rashid.
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
Now the CIA is helpfully
Now the CIA is helpfully leaking about 'warnings' it gave India beforehand. Is this about bringing down their government? Elections are near and the current (Indian) admin now is disgraced. Just days before Mumbai Indians were coming to grips with Hindu terrorism being exposed as such. Participating were top cops and others(is this why there was some kind of stand-down;see reports of cops not returning fire?). A further stroke of 'luck' for the Hindu nuts was the killing of the top cop - by the 'terrorists' -who'd been getting death threats for his exposure of said terrorism...with the elections not far off. It all stinks - the Israeli angle, the timing for Obama&his hawkish cabinet, the 'treasure trove' of sim-cards,etc and the captured terrorist blabbing.
Good reporting from India
An Indian point of view, asking lots of good questions, pointing out glaring inconsistencies; such as the number of actors behind the attacks, the notion that a Pakistani trawler managed to make its way to Mumbai. If the group landed in Mumbai, it will have needed local assistance and transportation to make it to 13 locations ... Etc.
Good article, well worth reading.
Reduce VIP security and interrogate survivors, please
http://atheonews.blogspot.com/2008/12/indian-view-cover-up.html
See also:
Mumbai Terror Attacks
http://atheonews.blogspot.com/2008/12/is-pakistan-to-blame.html
Thanks
You guys are all way ahead of me -- or at least way ahead of the series. Stay tuned; I'm cranking it out as fast as I can.
I don't think anyone is 'ahead of anyone else' in this ...
... if I may say. With the exception of spooks [and even then], most of us are groping in the dark.
Your dissection of press coverage is invaluable wrt this issue, as it brings together disparate media bleats and blats which, when organized and viewed as a whole, reveal unspoken policy. -- It's invaluable.
Thanks for your mighty hard work.
Red Strings
Speaking of Red String Bracelets- direct from Kabbalah Inc. we have-
http://www.cultnews.com/?p=1991
http://www.cultnews.com/?p=1880
Kudos
I see Uruknet is posting your series.
It's also on the front page of SOTT.
Good stuff!! We all appreciate your cranking.
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
Music---I like it.
Watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM
No sexy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nqpI1A3iA
Remember this. Don't forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nqpI1A3iA
Not much changes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v240bYbbrM
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R.I.P. Mom, Dec 3, 2008
Ron
I am so sorry for your loss, my condolences to you and your family. Take care, Deb(aussie)
Ron
Ron,
Absolutely brilliant, beautiful song...so full of emotion...it touches my heart. Thank you for sharing with us in your time sorrow.
I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your mother.
On The Turning Away
On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we won't understand
"Don't accept that what's happening
Is just a case of others' suffering
Or you'll find that you're joining in
The turning away"
It's a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting it's shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that we're all alone
In the dream of the proud
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerised as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night
No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
It's not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that there'll be
No more turning away?
"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v
Thanks for the thoughts Deb
Thanks for the thoughts Deb and McJ. The rest is just something I want to say somewhere and sadly, I really don't know where else to do so...so apologies for doing it here.
First it was my father who was dying of cancer. After the docs did their thing, cutting him wide open and removing what they could, my mother sat there in the hospital first, then one of those recovery centers, day by day, hour after hour, until he was finally able to go home. Then shortly after he appeared to be well enough to take care of himself, she got sick. She went to the hospital and never made it home again. She was operated on for this and that, but to this day, I don't think the doctors ever figured out what it was. First it was cancer, then it wasn't. Etc. Now the roles were reversed and it was my dad who sat by her side for hours on end, trying to make her as comfortable as possible while making the doctors, who regularly appeared incompetent, as uncomfortable as possible without putting a bullet in their head. The last time I saw her she looked like she had aged 20 years and she was shaking uncontrollably, and could barely talk, but she enjoyed seeing her grandchildren, although she commented that she thought they were scared. I don't know if they were scared or just didn't understand what was going on, but I knew I was scared. I didn't see how what I saw there could ever be reversed or made 'normal' again. Not long after, we called to check on her and she sounded much better and was once again supposedly going to be going to one of those recovery centers. Ever since she went in to the hospital, she was bounced back and forth between there and one of the recovery centers, but was often sent right back to the hospital, sometimes within a matter of hours.
Anyways, while my dad appears to have recovered from the cancer, he still had medical problems involving a hernia he said was the size of a grapefruit, that he'd been lugging around because they couldn't operate on it for one reason or another. But, just a week or so before my mother passed, he had to have surgery on it because it started causing other problems, and needless to say, he was no longer there for my mother every day. I often wonder what effect that had on her, and what he thinks about it now. We've all heard of lifelong couples that after one passes, the other follows shortly thereafter. I wonder about that as well...
I'm not religious, and neither are my parents, so I won't be saying "she's in a better place now". But by that same token, I know I can say she's not in a worse place either. This world sucks, and if these bastards that are threatening us now with another one of their 'inevitables', this time a biological one within 5 years, get their way, it's going to get a lot worse. I don't think I could stand to watch my family go through that.
There really is no winning this one, IMO. The 'thinkers' amongst us are just that...thinkers. Not men or women of action, or at least not action that would change things. Like WP says, Obama doesn't have to care what we think of him now, or what we say. And any actions that matter that are taken against him that might actually affect change will just be labelled 'terrorist' in nature, and handled accordingly.
Sorry again for this incoherent rambling, but I feel a little better now. Thanks.
They are sincere words, Ron,
They are sincere words, Ron, calling for care and competence from others and against lack of care/inhumanity and incompetence. This care and sincerity is why I visit here. Thank you for writing. My condolences.
So terribly sad
Nobody should have to go through what you and your Dad have been through,I am so very sorry. Don't apologise, please. Talking(writing) about these things can be of great help. Know that there are people from all over this scary world thinking of you.
Yeah
What they said.
What a horrible story. I'm sorry that anyone has to go through it, from any angle: spouse, sibling(
, children, grandchildren, other family, and friends ... everybody connected in any way suffers when something like this happens. And it happens far too often.
Please don't apologize for speaking freely here.
Please take good care of yourself and the people you love the most.
doctors don't know much, and
doctors don't know much, and we all die alone.
it's a harsh universe; reflect on the comforts we've enjoyed and the good times had, even if sadly they were mostly at the expense of other miserable creatures, be they human or otherwise.
Sorry to be the life of the party. sign me debbie downer.
Your Post Is Most Relevent, Ron
Sending you love through the unseen strings that connect us. Isn't it nice to blog at a place where people don't snap insults at one another... and if you think that was incoherent rambling then you obviously haven't seen an Associated Press story lately, or any of my posts.. And I won't give you the old "in a better place" thing either. I've been going through the same type of thoughts* lately and I still hold physics as the first religion in witch energy is never lost, it only transfers itself somewhere else (you lose 4oz. when you die) Seems fair, and citing Occam's razor I assume it's the simplest answer. Also, my mother died for 13 min. when I was born. She was able to see everything that was going on in the room and could see my Dad having a conniption fit in the hallway, took three doctors to subdue him. She was completely outside her body, and no pain whatsoever; a feeling of complete bliss, did not want to come back at all, only after she looked down and saw me did she come back.
I think you're right about the bio thing; you have to put yourself in their shoes sometimes and as sick as it sounds, that is a most efficient way for them to rid the world of the 80%. These eugenicists have been at it for years. A nuke or a series of nukes could hinder their plans and cause undo suffering, especially to them. Go ahead; put yourself at the table of one of these "meetings". Know thine enemy.
* there are times when all the worlds asleep, the questions run too deep for such a simple man - ST
what I don't understand
Reading about what has happened to Ron's parents, I can't help but feel awful for all of them. I can see that others here feel the same way. And what I don't understand is: Is this a relatively isolated phenomenon? Is there something freaky (or freakish) about it?
I don't get it. Who wouldn't grieve deeply at the loss of a loved one, especially if the circumstances were horrific? Who wouldn't feel the same way if it happened to them? So why is it that so many of the people around us think it's acceptable for USA to inflict so much death and destruction on the rest of the world? Do they think Iraqis don't have families? Do they think Somalis don't love one another? Do they really think that everybody else in the world is sub-human?
Or is there something wrong with us that makes us think these things matter?
Wasn't it you
...that said take what has happened here, multiply it by a million and you have the War on Terror?
maybe
I might have said something like that once or twice.
me too
That's what I have so much trouble comprehending, where has all the empathy gone?
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