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I was hoping you'd be back online to write something about this attack.
I can only imagine what will happen next. Will the US "need" to occupy Pakistan to bring them some "security"?

It's horrible, alright -- but I'm hanged if I got any idea how this one's gonna play out. And that's if the Taliban did it or Al Qaida did it or the CIA did it or the Brits did it or whatever. Maybe the Pak leaders arranged it themselves. . . .

The Pak leaders don't want our Uncle Sammy messing around in their Stan. At the same time the lead Paks don't want to crawl into bed with Al Qaida or the Taliban and if they're willing to sleep with the CIA they don't want streetcorner Paks to know anything about it. I can't see any way the Pak leaders investigate this mess and come out the better for it -- no matter what they learn or say they've learned from their investigation.

Any ideas Winter? I'm sure we'd all be glad to know them.

Jimmy

"It may be thought that I am prejudiced. Perhaps I am. I would be ashamed of myself if I were not." Mark Twain

Thanks for your comments, all good ones.

As usual I didn't have time to put together a thorough post about a big news event, but regular readers of my blog will have read most of the background already -- time after time. This is so unsurprising.

For Jimmy: as far as I can tell, ISI is effectively a branch of CIA and ISI (i.e. Pak military) controls Pakistan much more than its "elected" leaders do. One of the tired sayings in this regard runs: Every other country has an army; but in Pakistan the army has a country.

But effectively, this means all the top Pakistani leaders are "in bed with" CIA, Al-Q and the Taliban, which are all connected by various means and have been since their inception. And you can throw in some MI6 for good measure, and don't forget Mossad. In my analysis, these intelligence agencies / covert operators cooperate a lot more than they'd like us to believe.

As for the investigation, I don't think this bombing will ever be properly investigated. It might get a sham investigation like 9/11 did or it might get no investigation at all, like the London bombings of 7/7/2005. But the truth will not get out. That's the essential element to a false flag attack, and this certainly appears to have been one.

Thanks very much (and as always) for the kind words; I too have been very worried about my technical difficulties. We don't have them all solved even yet, but we've fixed enough of them that I can blog again. Work is still problematic, though, and that means I will have to spend a lot more time on it than I would like to (at least for a while), and that means I won't be blogging full-steam for another little while yet.

Sorry about that, folks ... but holy merde batman did we ever fall into a snake pit this time.

from the Pakistan Daily-
"What Was Mysterious Activity Going on in the Marriott Hotel Islamabad by United States Marines"
Sunday, 21 September 2008 12:18 www.daily.pk

http://www.daily.pk/politics/politicalnews/7422-what-was-mysterious-acti...

Must keep this 'war on terra' going, must make more money....... It certainly doesn't matter how may peasants pay, especially if they aren't from the US.

"Dazed witnesses said the explosives-laden truck, bearing government number plates, was stopped at the hotel entrance for a routine security check.

‘As the security people were looking into the truck, it swiftly moved away and hit the outer wall of the hotel, causing a huge explosion,’ one man said."
from- http://www.sindhtoday.net/south-asia/22269.htm

Spies Warn That Al Qaeda Aims for October Surprise
Intercepted Messages Asking Local Cells To Be Prepared for Imminent Instructions
By ELI LAKE, Staff Reporter of the Sun | September 22, 2008
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/spies-warn-that-al-qaeda-aims-for-october-s...
"In the aftermath of two major terrorist attacks on Western targets, America's counterterrorism community is warning that Al Qaeda may launch more overseas operations to influence the presidential elections in November. Call it Osama bin Laden's 'October surprise.'
...The terrorist attack on the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad on Saturday was a particular blow to the allied effort against Al Qaeda. The hotel's lobby in recent years served as a meeting place for the CIA and Pakistanis who would not risk being seen at the American Embassy.
...President Zardari, who had just given his first major address as Pakistan's head of state, on fighting the Taliban and Al Qaeda, was the target of Saturday's attack, the vice president for research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, said.
"He was expected to attend the aftar dinner at the Marriott," Mr. Gartenstein-Ross said "Think of the symbolic value if they were able to kill Zardari after his first address as president of Pakistan in a speech announcing his fight against the terrorists. The symbolic effect of the attack on the same day would be devastating." "

Pakistan's 911 makes this sound so much more reasonable...

Bush offers Pakistan help protecting itself
23 Sep 2008 13:59:25 GMT
Source: Reuters
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N23358160.htm
NEW YORK, Sept 23 (Reuters) - "U.S. President George W. Bush on Tuesday said the United States wanted to help Pakistan protect itself...
Bush also expressed to Zardari his condolences for the victims of the truck bombing at the Marriott hotel in Islamabad that killed at least 53 people and raised new fears about worsening security in Pakistan, a nuclear-armed U.S. ally."

and the killing continues (from the same article)
"...the Pakistani military said earlier on Tuesday that troops backed by artillery and helicopter gunships killed 50 militants in Darra Adam Kheil, a tribal region close to the northwestern city of Peshawar. Ten more militants were killed in Swat, a northwestern valley.
The army has also launched a major offensive in the Bajaur region on the Afghan border, and said hundreds of militants have been killed there since late August."

"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v

and now rense dot com has linked to this piece on its home page:

http://www.rense.com/

Many thanks for those links.
We have more readers today than we've had in a long time.

I didn't like it, but I guess that's not necessarily a reason to censor it.

there was also an over-the-line racist post by "anonymous" this morning that never showed up (I deleted it instead of approving).
-NJT